Autonation chevrolet

I ran some numbers on a base Tesla Model 3 and a well equipped Chevy Bolt EV. AutoNation adds 500 dollars on the price... they don't do the crazy markup. This is an LT2 EV with adaptive cruise. The MSRP is $32,615
The title in Arizona is based on 20% of the value of the car (ev's only) and $2.80 for each $100 in value.
Of course you have to pay sales tax on the full price of the car, not the price minus the credit.
So the savings is $11,100 if buying the Bolt.
Of course the resale value is not taken into consideration. Currently used Tesla Model 3's are going for the price of a new one but that could be because of the price drops.... not sure if anyone is buying a used model 3 when there is new inventory available at almost the same price. With the used market on tesla's the dealers don't always say if the car has the "Enhanced Auto Pilot"- $6000 or "Full Self Driving" - $15,000. the price i used did not include either of course.
What do you think the resale of this bolt EV vs a Model 3 would be in 3 years?
I have never owned a Tesla. I have a 2017 Bolt LT and a 2022 Leaf SV Plus with tech package. I like both cars and I don't think i would prefer the Model 3 over either. I have parked my leaf next to a Model 3 and they look to be about the same size.
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	Model 3	2023 Bolt EV
Price	39740	33000 ($500 dealer markup)
Tax Credit	3750	7500
Price after Credit	35990	25500
Tax (8.5% on original price)	3377	2805
Title (AZ)	222	184
Total Variable Cost	39590	28489

EDIT: - I just called AutoNation... they are putting an $1800 markup started just recently.
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I ordered my EUV by walking into the only dealer that would take an order last August, Autonation Chevrolet in Spokane Valley. Talked with their fleet guy, Bill, who said he'd take a no-money, no-obligation order and let me know when they got an allocation at MSRP with no markups. True to his word, he'd call me with updates every month, making sure I still wanted it, and the train dropped off my car Friday. Saturday (yesterday), he called me and said the car is ready if you still want it, but the guys that detailed cars don't work until Monday. I told him I didn't care about that, as I was going to clean and ceramic coat it anyways.. I got there and he had all the paperwork ready (did all the finance stuff online so it was ready). Just the MSRP (the lower one from August), tax, title, and the doc fee, just as promised. I was in and out in an hour, and he walked me through the Qmerit setup and the tax refund process (still qualified for the $7500).It was the most upfront and easy car sale I've ever made at a dealership, even the finance guy didn't push. He did offer all the usual stuff, but I politely declined and that was it.
They said it was the first Redline package they'd seen there, and the fleet guy (Bill) was getting pounced on by the other sales staff to see if they could sell it instead, lol..
I kept my '16 Volt (gateway EV), the EUV is smoother and quieter than the Volt for sure. Base sound system isn't quite as good in the EUV as the Volt, but everything else it nicer. Holy crap the screen is awesome in the EUV, super responsive and the wireless Android Auto and wireless charger is LEGIT.
No regrets.
Edited: He also had it fully charged for me when I showed up.

Hello everyone. We bought a white LT redline edition with all packages OUT THE DOOR for $1000 above MSRP!
Nice purchase in Autonation chevrolet Doral here in miami.
After we drove for an hour and a half to grieco in Delray Beach for nothing because they tried to markup $4000, we finally got an "in transit" car giving $500 (hold), after dealer offered us a good deal. They removed the car in the system, unlike other dealers (because those dealers wants people, coming to ask)
When the car came, they didn't invented anything weird to rise the price. No pressure. They didn't have much information about the taxes form but I printed it in my home thanks to this community and the sales manager read the memo and talked with the station manager so they learned how to do it. They filled and signed the paper and they gave to us the paper that says the vehicle qualifys for $7500.
Victor and his manager Kenneth were the guys that help us.
Now, we didn't remove the demo mode in the dealer. We talked with the onstar representative and we told him to not add the credit card, but looks like we didn't finished the setup?
Later in my driveway I started to setup everything in the infotainment but when it asked for loging I choosed by mistake the "guest" choice.
And now alexa doesn't work on another user. Only in guest user. And even in the guest user, I can't link the my chevy skill. When I add my password it says "invalid input"
Is there anyway to repeat the first process when you setup for the first time the car? I tried to factory reset both users, my user and the guest user but looks like the system remainds the info in the guest user, so the alexa setup doesn't work in my onstar user.
When you see the users, can you erase the guest user? I can't erase it. Only the rest of users but not the guest.

Here are all of the new US CCS (Level 3 fast-charging) stations that rolled out in January 2023, according to the Department of Energy. These chargers are suitable for most new EVs on the market, except for:

1. Tesla drivers who haven't bought the official CCS adapter yet. Certain older Teslas need additional work done to accept the adapter.
2. Leaf owners like me, and some owners of older cars that also use CHAdeMO. If you drive a Leaf, or an older CHAdeMO car, see my matching post in leaf.

There were 173 CCS charge points added in January 2023. That shows continued growth month after month. For comparison, there were only 106 new CCS charge points in January 2022.
If you'd like to know about new chargers along your routes right away, or just prefer not to check this list monthly when new openings are rare in your area, I've set up a free service that provides email notifications as soon as they open. You can sign up at evpov.com. Or not! I don't really have a business plan here, I built it to help EV owners like myself.
I also have some nice EVPOV bumper stickers. If you'd like one drop me a line.

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Every aspect of this story makes me hate car dealerships even more - https://www.npr.org/2023/02/04/1152932192/yo-yo-car-sales

If you've ever bought a car, you know the feeling when you've signed all the paperwork, driven off the lot, and think, "Wow, this is my car now."
"I was excited," says Courtney Johnson. "I felt like I'd made a good decision as a mother."
Johnson had just had a baby when she and her husband, Darren, decided to buy a newer, safer car for the family. They live in a rural area outside Orlando, Fla. He's a fire sprinkler inspector; she's stopped working to raise the kids. And they bought a little used Hyundai SUV.
"It had the backup camera," she says, "and passenger and kid's airbags in the back."
But a full three weeks after they bought the car and took it home, they got what's called "yo-yo'd."
"I received a phone call from the finance manager of the dealership," Darren Johnson says. The manager told them the financing for the car had fallen through and if the couple wanted to keep it, they had to come back and sign a contract with different terms. Sponsor Message
"I was kind of confused," Johnson says. "I thought this was a legally binding contract. ... We've had this vehicle at home. What do you mean it's not financed?"
Most of us would be confused too. But odds are good that in the paperwork you signed when you bought your own car, there was some legal language saying the sale may not really be final. It often asserts that if the car dealer has trouble with the financing on its end after the sale, it can later cancel the deal, try to get you to agree to different terms, and take the car back if you refuse. "It does happen all too frequently"
NPR has found that this happens regularly around the country — sometimes with painful consequences, such as losing your car or even getting arrested — and that tougher rules for car dealers can make a difference. All this is especially relevant right now, as the Federal Trade Commission is in the midst of drafting new rules for dealers.
In the Johnsons' case, the new deal raised the price of the car, paid less for their trade-in vehicle, and removed an insurance policy they had in the first deal.
The Johnsons signed the new deal because they wanted to keep the car. But then a week later, they say the dealership told them they had to sign yet another deal. Sponsor Message
"At that point, it just all seemed really fishy," says Darren. The couple refused to return and sign it.
The dealer, Greenway Hyundai Orlando, sent a tow truck and repossessed the car. Buying A Car With Confidence Life Kit Buying A Car With Confidence
Meanwhile, documents show that Greenway had already sold their trade-in vehicle and didn't give it back.
"We both were just kind of like mind blown at the whole entire situation," Courtney says. "Like, how is this even possible?"
Documents from a later arbitration case show that the dealership wouldn't return their calls. And it didn't pay off the loan on their trade-in vehicle. So the Johnsons were stuck paying the loan, with no car, for nearly a year. They eventually used a chunk of their small retirement savings to pay the loan back.
"I just remember being like ... embarrassed, confused," Courtney says. Without a car, she had to ask friends to drive her and the baby to doctor visits. "I was, like, counting out change, trying to give friends money for gas to get places."
Greenway Hyundai Orlando declined an interview but said in a statement that "Greenway's goal is always to match customers with the financing they need to purchase the automobile of their choice ... it is a lose-lose scenario to have any customer's financing fall through."
The company also said "the communication in this situation around the trade-in ... was hindered by the impacts of the Covid-19 pandemic." The dealership did not explain how the pandemic stopped it from returning the Johnsons' car, which the dealership sold in October of 2019.
The Johnsons bought a car from Greenway Hyundai Orlando in Orlando, Fla. The dealership told them they needed to sign two other deals after their initial purchase. After the Johnsons refused to sign the third contract, the dealership repossessed the car. Octavio Jones for NPR
To get a sense of how often yo-yo sales happen, NPR sent a survey to consumer attorneys who work on auto cases. Forty of them responded. Together, those few dozen lawyers said they've gotten calls from nearly 900 car buyers in just the past year who say they felt victimized by a yo-yo car sale. Sponsor Message
They said that often the terms are worse for the customer under the new deal. And they said that about half the time the dealer tells the customer it's too late to get their trade-in vehicle back.
So what happened to the Johnsons is not just a bizarre one-off situation.
"It does happen all too frequently," says John Van Alst, an attorney with the nonprofit National Consumer Law Center.
Usually, when you finance a car through the dealer, technically you owe the dealership the money for the car. But the dealer wants to quickly sell the credit contract you signed to, for example, the credit arm of Ford or Toyota or some other auto lender.
That's why car dealers often put in the fine print that if they have trouble doing that, they can cancel the sale.
"They want you to feel bound by the contract," says Van Alst. "But they want to be able to walk away."
Many car dealers want you to buy a car the day you walk into the dealership, he says, because if you leave, you'll keep shopping around.
And to get you to buy the car, the sales person might agree to a monthly payment that's too low. Or for whatever reason, they can't find an auto lender willing to essentially buy your car loan, at least at a price the dealer is willing to take.
The Federal Trade Commission is in the midst of drafting new rules for car dealers. Octavio Jones for NPR
Sometimes the car dealer made a mistake and thought they'd be able to find a lender.
But other times, Van Alst says, "it's used as a technique by dealers to try to force consumers into a worse deal."
In those instances, he says, the salesperson knows the deal is too good to be true, but lets you think you've bought the car anyway. So you take it home, show it to your friends and family. Then a few days or weeks later you get the phone call yanking you back like a yo-yo. Sponsor Message
"'Oh, no,'" Van Alst says the dealer tells you. "'You're going to have to accept an 8% higher interest rate.'" And at that point, he says, "It's a whole lot more difficult for the consumer to walk away. The dealer might have already sold their trade-in."
That's called "unhorsing" the car buyer. "They are then sort of at the mercy of the car dealer," he says.
As it drafts a new set of proposed rules for car dealers, the FTC has requested public comment. And the agency is asking directly — should something more be done to specifically address the problem of yo-yo car sales?
Eighteen state attorneys general say yes. "The FTC can and should go farther to prevent this unfair and deceptive practice," the attorneys general wrote together in a letter to the agency. They urge the FTC to consider "an outright ban on the practice of allowing consumers to leave the dealership with a vehicle before the transaction's financing is finalized." Laws can make a difference
NPR has found that tougher rules for car dealers can make a difference.
In 2015, a new state law in Maryland went into effect. It says dealers have just four days to cancel a sale or it becomes final. And dealers are banned from selling trade-in vehicles until the sale is final. So if need be, the car buyer can get their trade-in back.
NPR obtained and analyzed data made up of complaints to the Maryland attorney general's office. In the three years prior to the new law, there were 122 complaints related to yo-yo car sales, or "spot-delivery" sales as the industry calls them. But now, in the three years ending in 2022, complaints have fallen by more than half.
"Absolutely the law has made a difference," says Karen Straughn, an assistant attorney general with the Maryland attorney general's Consumer Protection Division. She says it took a few years for some car dealers to change their practices. But now, she says, most have. Sponsor Message
She says yo-yo sale cases are also more easily resolved now. She says some dealers used to argue that they didn't do anything wrong. Now the rules are clear.
"We advise the consumer and the dealership of exactly what the law requires," Straughn says. "We find that most times dealerships and consumers are able to work together and resolve it amicably."
But Paul Metrey with the National Automobile Dealers Association says the FTC doesn't need to change the rules at the federal level. He says the vast majority of car sales go through with no incident. "You have tens of millions of transactions where this happens all the time," Metrey says, even when the sales contract gives the dealer the right to cancel it later.
So he says there's nothing wrong with contracts that give dealers the right to cancel after the fact. He says he doesn't have data on problems with yo-yo sales but that it seems to him that it's rare that the original terms don't work and a car buyer needs to be called back.
"That's a situation that you want to avoid," he says, because if the buyer walks away, the dealer gets stuck with a car with more mileage on it making it worth less. It's a headache for everybody involved.
"Perhaps most significantly, you have an unhappy customer," Metrey says. "The reputation of the dealership is key."
The dealer association says car buyers like the current system and changing the rules would create unnecessary delays. Dealers call these contracts spot deliveries because they allow buyers to take the keys and drive off right away, on the spot, even if the dealer hasn't finalized the financing.
Metrey says there are always going to be bad actors at some dealerships, but "to the extent there is an issue, it's something that can be addressed under current federal and state law." Sponsor Message "Nobody should have to go through something like that"
Still, the FTC says in its rulemaking that current laws in general don't appear to be working well enough to protect car buyers. And with yo-yo sales there definitely can be bad outcomes.
NPR spoke to two different car buyers where the dealer reported the car stolen after the buyer resisted agreeing to different terms or returning the car.
Kaitlyn Arland is an Army service member stationed at Fort Riley in Kansas. When she bought a car two years ago, she says the salesman didn't say anything about the sale not being final as she drove away. But then she received a call from the dealership. Arin Yoon for NPR
Kaitlyn Arland is an Army service member stationed at Fort Riley in Kansas. The summer before last she was 19 years old and bought a new Kia sedan with a $325 monthly payment.
"I was so excited," says Arland. "I remember asking the gentleman, like, 'I'm good to go?' And he was, like, 'you're good to go.'"
She says the salesman didn't say anything about the sale not being final as she drove away. But then, eight days later, came the yo-yo phone call. She says the dealer told her the financing didn't work out, she had to come back, sign a different contract, and make a $2,000 down payment.
"I straight up told him, 'I'm sorry. I don't have $2,000,'" Arland says. "He proceeded to ask me if I had a credit card that I could pay it on. And I said ... financially I can't do it, I'm sorry."
Left: Kaitlyn Arland's car keys hang next to her dog tags at her home in Junction City, Kansas. Right: When Arland pushed back on the dealer's new terms and a higher down payment, the finance manager told her they would report the car as stolen. Arin Yoon for NPR
Arland had never bought a car before. But this didn't seem fair. She had a good credit score.
But when she pushed back on the car dealer, she says the finance manager told her if she didn't bring the car back immediately they were going to report it stolen. And apparently they did.
"So the brigade commander reached out to my commander and said that the dealership said that I had stolen this car and I wouldn't return it," Arland says. "I was already new to the unit, and I just found out I was pregnant, so I was already super worried about what everyone was thinking about me." Sponsor Message
Arland was worried this was going to wreck her young career in the military. "I was bawling my eyes out in front of my entire unit."
And after all that, the dealership took the car back.
For Andre Flynt, a car buyer in Cleveland, things ended badly too.
"One night I'm just driving and next thing you know, I get pulled over by the police," Flynt says. "I got my girlfriend in the car, my little brother."
This was about a year ago. Flynt had bought a used Chevrolet Camaro from an AutoNation dealership outside Cleveland. But then he says he got tangled up in a yo-yo sale situation. The dealer was trying to get him to bring the car back. Flynt said he would, but then he didn't. And the dealer reported the car stolen. Flynt says when he got pulled over he showed the police the paperwork indicating he had bought the car legally.
"They got me at the back of the car, one officer was talking about why was he pulling me over when all the paperwork and everything is in my name," Flynt says. "I'm like, there's so many cop cars behind me, it looked like I robbed a bank."
Flynt says it was scary.
"I'm black, too, so it's like any slight movement, anything man, it could have been just all downhill," Flynt says. "It was terrifying. It shook my girl up, 'cause we didn't know what was gonna happen."
The officers arrested him and he spent two nights in jail before he managed to get released.
"Nobody should have to go through something like that when you actually didn't do anything," says Flynt.
The police returned the car to the dealership. AutoNation said in a statement to NPR that the sale had a "stipulation" that Flynt would provide a copy of his Social Security card the next day and that he did not. Flynt and his attorney both say that's not true, that there was no stipulation about a Social Security card and that it's not mentioned in the sales contract Flynt signed.
Flynt says it wasn't until several days later that the dealership contacted him saying it needed more documentation for the loan financing, which he had trouble providing. Emails show that an AutoNation manager repeatedly, over several weeks, told Flynt that if he didn't return the car he would report it stolen.
Consumer attorneys say these are the sorts of messy situations that result when dealers sell someone a car, hand them the keys, shake their hand, and then later try to yo-yo them back.
And there are plenty of successful car dealerships that say they don't engage in the practice of canceling a sale and renegotiating after the customer has already driven off the lot.
"Once the customer signs the paperwork and we sign the paperwork, that's a contract ... it's done," says Scott Addison, the head of sales at Fitzgerald Auto Mall, which operates 23 dealership locations in Maryland, Pennsylvania and Florida.
"We sell 27,000 cars a year," Addison says. "At no point are we going to bring somebody back in and renegotiate."
He says they run into an issue with the financing with maybe 15 or 20 of those sales every year. But the dealership just absorbs any cost related to that and it's rare.
Addison says with technology today it doesn't take very long for his dealership to get a customer's financing approved. "We usually have an approval within seconds of submitting the deal."
For their part, Courtney and Darren Johnson in Florida managed to find a lawyer who took their case, which ended up in arbitration as is required in many sales contracts. But it turns out suing a car dealership can be perilous.
"These are risky cases to bring," says their attorney, David Abrams. "The dealership counterclaimed against them," he says. "They actually went after Darren and Courtney and sued them."
Greenway Hyundai sought to recover its attorney fees and even "storage fees" for the trade-in car that it never returned to the Johnsons. So Abrams says if they lost the case the couple would likely have owed tens of thousands of dollars in legal bills. "They would have had to have declared bankruptcy." Sponsor Message
Abrams says most state laws around deceptive practices don't spell out where the line is that car dealers can't cross. "It's very vague," he says.
That's a big reason he'd like to see the FTC craft a rule that directly addresses spot-delivery and yo-yo sales. "Having some bright line rules," he says, would make the buying process more transparent for buyers and "would make the law much easier to understand and interpret and enforce."
The facts in the Johnsons' case were striking enough, though, that the arbitrator ruled emphatically in their favor, saying the dealership's actions bordered on "criminal conduct" and were "precisely the type of wanton and willful disregard for the rights of others that evinces gross negligence and warrants punitive damages."
Last month, the couple was awarded more than $225,000 in damages.
"I was excited," says Courtney Johnson.
"I'm glad the dealership got punished," says Darren.
The couple says they're thinking they might use the money to start their own fire sprinkler installation business.

Phoenix/Glendale AutoNation Chevrolet
I bought a 22 EV in August as I just got a new job that needed me to commute. I ordered a 23 EUV Premier, with Sun/Sound and SuperCruise in Ice Blue with the two-tone Grey interior. MSRP/Sticker $37,390, and I was 'assured' they have no dealer markups aside from the $995 destination charge (and with a $500 educator discount).
With the drop in used values and the rise in interest rates, I can't afford to make that change. My order is "in transit" and should be in the metro area somewhere in the next couple weeks. So, this one is likely going to be available...

NOW HIRING Inside Sales Associate - AutoNation Chevrolet North-https://mycoloradojobs.com/sales/inside-sales-associate-autonation-chevrolet-north-0273fb5/?utm_source=SocialAutoPoster

Here are all of the new US CCS (Level 3 fast-charging) stations that rolled out in September 2022, according to the Department of Energy. These chargers are suitable for most new EVs on the market, except for:

1. Tesla drivers who haven't bought the newly released official CCS adapter yet.
2. Leaf owners like me, and some owners of older cars that also use CHADeMO. If you drive a Leaf, or an older CHADeMO car, see my September post in the Leaf subreddit.

There was an issue with the data this month, so the count could be a little low. The DoE listed about 800 chargers as having opened on September 21st, 2022. I was suspicious, so I spot-checked and found evidence these chargers were previously open. I'm not sure what happened on their end, but I decided to ignore all chargers that were "newly opened" on September 21st, 2022. That takes us from a very unlikely number to a healthy but normal month.
So... ignoring the bad data, there were 182 new CHADeMOs added in September.
If you'd like to know about new chargers along your routes right away, I've set up a free service that provides email notifications as soon as they open. You can sign up at evpov.com. Or not! I don't really have a business plan here, I built it to help EV owners like myself.
I also have some nice EVPOV bumper stickers. If you'd like to spread the love drop me a line.

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Steve Owen Memorial Park 43063 10th St W Lancaster, CA 93534 1100 N Main Street 1100 N Main Street Los Angeles, CA 90012 Public Parking Structure 1200 Wilshire Blvd Los Angeles, CA 90017 Thailand Plaza 5321 Hollywood Blvd Los Angeles, CA 90027 6404 Wilshire Blvd 6404 Wilshire Blvd Los Angeles, CA 90048 Moreno Valley City Hall 14177 Frederick St Moreno Valley, CA 92553 Non Public 7373 Gateway Blvd Newark, CA 94560 Daniels Wood Land Inc 2125 Ardmore Rd Paso Robles, CA 93446 Redlands Packing House Parking Structure 101 W Stuart Ave Redlands, CA 92374 Sacramento Regional Transit 29th Street Yard 1400 29th Street Sacramento, CA 95816 UC Davis Medical Center 2401 45th Street Sacramento, CA 95816 Mariner's Park Main St &, S 32nd St San Diego, CA 92113 Hilton Plaza (227 W) 227 W. 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LANSING, MI 48911 ➡ MN Alexandria Motor Company 3710 South, MN-29 Alexandria, MN 56308 Harry Brown's Family Automotive 1747 Grant Street Faribault, MN 55021 Whitaker Buick GMC 131 19th Street SW Forest Lake, MN 55025 Snell Indoor Auto Center 1900 Madison Ave Mankato, MN 56001 CIVICEV CENTRAL FIRE 1 14550 Minnetonka Blvd Minnetonka, MN 55345 BUERKLE HYUNDAI BUERKLE HYUNDAI 3350 Hwy 61 N Saint Paul, MN 55110 ➡ MO GM - ELCO CADILLAC 15110 Manchester Ballwin, MO 63011 SuperSonic Site 1 1401 Creekwood PKWY Columbia, MO 65202 Price Chopper 520 S Commercial St Harrisonville, MO 64701 Holiday Inn Express & Suites Perryville 2020 Jefferson St Perryville, MO 63775 THOMPSON SALES COMPANY 1555 E INDEPENDENCE ST SPRINGFIELD, MO 65804 Hy-Vee 110 Chestnut St Tarkio, MO 64491 ➡ MT CLARK HYUNDAI SERVICECUSTOMER 2955 U.S. 93 S Kalispell, MT 59901 CLARK HYUNDAI SALES CUSTOMER 2915 U.S. 93 S Kalispell, MT 59901 ➡ NC Food Lion - Tuckaseegee 4709 Tuckaseegee Rd Charlotte, NC 28208 Catawba Village BP 221 Mt Holly-Huntersville Rd Charlotte, NC 28214 Willow Oaks BP 185 George W. Liles Parkway Concord, NC 28027 HALL HYUNDAI EC STATION 6 1306 N Road St Elizabeth City, NC 27909 HALL HYUNDAI EC STATION 5 1306 N Road St Elizabeth City, NC 27909 LEE HYUNDAI CPE250 DC2 1960 Skibo Rd Fayetteville, NC 28314 ➡ NJ MERCEDES-BENZ O CP STATION 135 NJ-31 Flemington, NJ 08822 NEW CHARGERS SIDE LV3 180 US-202 Flemington, NJ 08822 SHORE TOYOTA TOY- SHORE-DC 4236 E Black Horse Pike Hamilton, NJ 08330 T & T COAST 2205 RTE 35 SEA GIRT, NJ 08750 NJCar Trenton 856 River Road Trenton, NJ 08628 ➡ NM Allsup's Convenience Store 12361 US-54 Carrizozo, NM 88301 Clines Corners Travel Center 1 Yacht Club Dr Clines Corners, NM 87070 BORMAN HYUNDAI FC2 210 Boutz Rd Las Cruces, NM 88005 BORMAN HYUNDAI BH ST CPE250 2 210 Boutz Rd Las Cruces, NM 88005 ➡ NV Save Mart 3620 N Carson St Carson City, NV 89706 Site #25 42500 Austin Hwy Fallon, NV 89406 Terrible Herbst 2601 Wigwam Pkwy Henderson, NV 89074 AutoNation Buick GMC West Sahara 6400 W SAHARA LAS VEGAS, NV 89146 Terrible Herbst 3320 Novat St Las Vegas, NV 89129 Terrible Herbst 11330 Southern Highlands Pkwy Las Vegas, NV 89141 Site #18A (Luning Trading Post) 300 Plymire St Luning, NV 89420 Save Mart 195 W Plumb Ln Reno, NV 89509 ➡ NY QUICKLEES 1 DCFC1 2781 Lakeville Rd Avon, NY 14414 QUICKLEES 1 DCFC2 2781 Lakeville Rd Avon, NY 14414 QUICKLEES27 QUICKLEE'S/DCFC 204 Oak St Batavia, NY 14020 QUICKLEES27 DC FAST 1 204 Oak St Batavia, NY 14020 QUICKLEES22 DCFC1 5744 Co Rd 20 Belmont, NY 14813 QUICKLEES22 DCFC2 5744 Co Rd 20 Belmont, NY 14813 PRESHYUN PKG 1 768 E Chester St Kingston, NY 12401 PRESHYUN PKG 2 768 E Chester St Kingston, NY 12401 ELLIS CHEVY ELLISDCFC 551 E Main St Malone, NY 12953 New Hyde Park - 2298 Jericho Turnpike 2298 Jericho Turnpike New Hyde Park, NY 11040 GM - HUDSON CADILLAC - Poughkeepsie 2023 South Road Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 GARVEY SIDE 1 257 Dix Ave Queensbury, NY 12804 CHARGE POINT #1 ABB STATION 1 5056 Commercial Dr Yorkville, NY 13495 Grand Prize Chevrolet Buick GMC Cadillac 32 route 304 nanuet, NY 10954 ➡ OH PERFORMANCE CADILLAC COLUMBUS 3733 CLAYPOOL ST NW CARROLL, OH 43112 LARICHE CADILLAC 215 E MAIN CROSS FINDLAY, OH 45840 Steinle GMC Cadillac 2149 W STATE ST Fremont, OH 43420 Spitzer Chevrolet Northfield 333 E Aurora Rd Northfield, OH 44067 ➡ OK Clevyr, Inc. 1000 Classen Blvd Oklahoma City, OK 73106 MYERS-DUREN H-D DCFAST HOG 4848 S Peoria Ave Tulsa, OK 74105 ➡ OR City of Albany Revitalization Agency 180 Ferry St (parking lot across the street) Albany, OR 97321 GM - FERGUSON BUICK GMC 1015 N INTERSTATE DR. NORMAN, OR 73069 ➡ PA KELLY KIA KIA FAST CHARGE 254 Pittsburgh Rd Butler, PA 16002 Kelly Cadillac 1986 State Rd Lancaster, PA 17601 GATEWAY Q QTOWN ABB SHOP 406 S West End Blvd Quakertown, PA 18951 ➡ RI IRVINGOIL RI-PROV-L3-0002 36 Pleasant Valley Pkwy Providence, RI 02908 IRVINGOIL RI-PROV-L3-0001 36 Pleasant Valley Pkwy Providence, RI 02908 GM - Paul Masse Buick GMC South 2909 Tower Hill Rd South Kingstown, RI 02874 ➡ TN GM - Sunrise Chevrolet Buick GMC at Collierville 4605 Houston Levee Rd Collierville, TN 38017 GM - Stan McNabb Chevrolet Buick GMC 2000 N Jackson St Tullahoma, TN 37388 ➡ TX CLASSIC CHEVROLET BUICK GMC OF CLEBURNE 822 WALTER HOLLIDAY CLEBURNE, TX 76033 Bayer Motor Co 1101 W Central Ave Comanche, TX 76442 Phillips 66 OnCue 150kW Chargers 10612 Westheimer Rd. Houston, TX 77042 Cadillac Of Laredo 6301 Arena Blvd Laredo, TX 78041 Jerry's Cadillac 3110 Fort Worth Hwy Weatherford, TX 76087 ➡ UT GM - Hansen Cadillac of Brigham City (To Be Commisiioned) 1175 SO Commerce Way Brigham City, UT 84302 SOUTHTOWNE1 CUTOMER WEST 10770 S Auto Mall Dr Sandy, UT 84070 SOUTHTOWNE1 LOT EAST 10770 S Auto Mall Dr Sandy, UT 84070 ➡ VA MBOFRICHMOND DC FAST 8225 W Broad St Richmond, VA 23294 Hart Motor Co. 1341 East Main Street Salem, VA 24153 CHECKERED FLAG GUEST PARKING 3700 Sentara Way Virginia Beach, VA 23452 Target Virginia Beach #T2770 4554 Virginia Beach Blvd Virginia Beach, VA 23462 ➡ VT Alderman Supercharger 65 Windcrest Road Rutland, VT 05701 ➡ WA EDMONDSNISSAN COMMERCIAL 24015 84th Ave W Edmonds, WA 98026 Naches 8894 US-12 Naches, WA 98937 Ballard Blocks 1451 NW 46th St Seattle, WA 98107 The Hive 2904 E. Sprague Spokane, WA 99202 North East Community Center 4001 N. Cook St Spokane, WA 99207 

I’m entertaining stepping up to something newer from my ‘03 Miata. I want reliability and ability to carry my bike w/o a bike rack, under 70K-80K mi, & step up a few years from 2003. I commute to work 3x / week 100 miles round trip. Miata I’ve baselined so practically no issue (save for the fuel injector issue I’m currently replacing).
My preferred options are too expensive in today’s markets with d mileage I want; i.e. 4Runner, CRV, Rav4… or a Jap pick up truck. That lead me to alternatives: Mazda; I’ve randomly read (haven’t researched anything yet - doing that tonight) some hate towards the mazda cvt - not sure if this model comes with cvt.
I would entertain a Hyundai / Kia if I could save $ or get newer / lower miles. I trust and like the brands but in 2020 I rented Hyundai’s small suv and the interior’s plastic felt just kinda too “plasticy”.
American options? Yeah I’m open. Fuel economy? I’m happy with 24-25 highway.
Thoughts?

Has anyone had a good experience getting the shift to park issue resolved at a Chevy dealership in Denver? I bought my 2018 Volt from AutoNation Chevrolet North and had it towed there after the shift to park alert and CEL made my car stop while I was driving. They said I need a new shifter assembly. I had a 90 day limited warranty with them and I brought it in on the 89th day so they won’t cover it because it wasn’t technically in their possession until the day it expired. They also said my only remaining Chevrolet warranty is powertrain and this isn’t covered under the powertrain warranty.

Hi! I’m Sean. I’ve been selling at AutoNation Chevrolet for 8 months now. I have done a few things with my desk area to make it attractive to customers but I haven’t found that wuzzah! I’m looking for in my desk.
I have a magnetic wall I’d like to buy some magnets/stickers for. I have a decent space to put “decorations” you could say. Or I could turn my desk into the poster area for AutoNation and put that memorabilia everyone signifying how much I love my company!
Could anyone give me pointers on what they do with their workspaces to make their customers feel warm, invited, safe? I want to present my area as somewhere they would like to be.

Hey Everyone, I made a group on Facebook and had the community make this list if you would like to use to help find a dealer willing to sell for MSRP.
#MSRP
Now with Google Sheets!
Want one for MSRP? UPDATE: Below MSRP added! UPDATE2: Google Sheets link : https://docs.google.com/.../1wZqkLb.../edit...
UPDATE 3: Now added Lighting dealers as well UPDATE 4: We're up to 15 States and 20 Dealers!
To help people find dealers that do not charge over MSRP I'm making this thread where you can share dealerships that you have confirmed. The below two was confirmed by another group member and myself.
If you find another dealership or one of the below no longer will honor the policy please respond to this thread and I will add/remove.
Order is by Alphabetized by state and dealer name.
1) Alabama
A ) *$2500 Below MSRP* Donohoo Chevrolet 1000 Greenhill Blvd NW, Fort Payne, AL 35967 (256) 845-3525 Ad from dealer for below msrp: https://twitter.com/donohoo.../status/1478871067561271296...
B ) *5% off MSRP!!!* Buster Miles Chevy and Ford 1884 Almon St, Heflin, AL 36264 (256) 781-4536 Ad from Dealer for 5% off: https://www.facebook.com/145311652185368/posts/4592284844154671/
2) Arizona
AUTONATION CHEVROLET ARROWHEAD 9055 W BELL RD PEORIA AZ 85382-3715 (623) 748-0880
3 ) California
A ) Connell Chevrolet 2828 Harbor Blvd, Costa Mesa, CA 92626 (714) 8809772
B ) Rydell Chevrolet 18600 Devonshire St, Los Angeles, CA 91324 (818) 923-1975
4 ) Florida Victory Layne Chevrolet 3980 Fowler St, Fort Myers, FL 33901 (239) 603-7069
5 ) Idaho Lewiston Chevrolet Buick GMC 2301 3rd Ave N, Lewiston, ID 83501 (208) 413-6393
6 ) Illinois
A ) Libertyville Chevrolet 1001 S Milwaukee Ave, Libertyville, IL 60048 (847) 984-1432
B ) Ray Chevrolet Fox Lake 39 US-12, Fox Lake, IL 60020 (847) 587-3300 Ray Chevrolet https://www.facebook.com/raychevroletfoxlake/posts/10159864085389914
7 ) Kansas
Jim Clark Chevrolet 911 Goldenbelt Blvd, Junction City, KS 66441 (785) 261-9642
8 ) Michigan
A ) Betten Baker Chevrolet Buick of Cadillac 1701 N Mitchell St, Cadillac, MI 49601 (231) 715-3338
B ) *Will honor discounts, employee pricing and MSRP* Feldman Chevrolet of Lansing 2801 East Michigan Ave Lansing, MI 48912 (833) 577-0810 Feldman Chevrolet of Lansing
C ) Fox Chevrolet 632 E Main St SE Caledonia, MI 49316 844-204-3135
9 ) New York Hoselton Chevrolet 909 Fairport Rd, East Rochester, NY 14445 (585) 444-3514
10 ) North Carolina
Rick Hendrick City Chevrolet 5101 E. Independence Blvd. Charlotte NC 28212 704-536-1410
11 ) Oklahoma
Wilson Chevrolet *MSRP + FREE Delivery in lower 48* 4850 W 6th Ave, Stillwater, OK 74074 (405) 372-3925 Wilson Chevrolet
12 ) Pennsylvania
#1 Cochran Chevrolet 22010 Perry Hwy, Zelienople, PA 16063 (412)482-1503
13 ) Tennessee
Walker Chevrolet *MSRP +$1700 Wheel, Paint, Interior Protection* 3940 Carothers Pkwy, Franklin, TN 37067 (615) 538-5184
14 ) Texas
Classic Chevrolet of Grapevine 2501 William D Tate Ave, Grapevine, TX 76051 (817) 410-1560
15 ) Washington North Bend Chevrolet 106 Main Ave N, North Bend, WA 98045 (425) 888-0781

So it's been another pretty good year on the sub; not least that we hit 100,000 subscribers and are already at (looks right) nearly 120k.
I found a bot that has summarised the year on the sub. Unfortunately it can only read 1000 posts which misses off, roughly, the first 90 days of the year, but meh, it's good enough.
So without further ado (thanks again, u/subreddit_stats !):
Period: 275.14 days

	Submissions	Comments
Total	1000	42683
Rate (per day)	3.63	116.82
Unique Redditors	477	5501
Combined Score	263210	476733

Top Submitters' Top Submissions

1. 7210 points, 32 submissions: pairsofsox
   
   1. Rinus VeeKay and Oliver Askew at Road America (709 points, 33 comments)
   2. Alexander Rossi’s new livery for 2021 (383 points, 28 comments)
   3. Happy Birthday Justin Wilson. You are deeply missed! (369 points, 6 comments)
   4. Bobby Unser Jr. passes away (365 points, 14 comments)
   5. A few more shots of Alexander Rossi’s AutoNation livery from the test session at Sebring (from Alexander Rossi’s Facebook) (319 points, 7 comments)
   6. Felix Rosenqvist on Instagram: “Even watching this hurts 🥵 Damn that was a big hit! Impressive how safe and strong these cars are built, thanks @dallaragroup @indycar, and…” (294 points, 10 comments)
   7. P2 in Indianapolis, all the action onboard - Romain Grosjean on YouTube (281 points, 34 comments)
   8. 2.17 miles. 11 Turns. 1 bridge. 🌉🤠 Ride along with @RGrosjean for a full lap of @IndyCar racing around the streets of Nashville. #PoweredByHonda // #INDYCAR // #MusicCityGP - HPD-North American Motorsport on Twitter (264 points, 71 comments)
   9. MARCO ANDRETTI JOINS COUSIN JARETT ANDRETTI TO CO-DRIVE ANDRETTI AUTOSPORT'S NO. 36 IN THE IMSA WEATHERTECH SPORTSCAR CHAMPIONSHIP'S SIX HOURS OF WATKINS GLEN (262 points, 79 comments)
   10. Paul Tracy announces his departure from Twitter on his Instagram account (262 points, 233 comments)
2. 5865 points, 19 submissions: Wasdgta3
   
   1. F for people who don’t get CNBC (694 points, 83 comments)
   2. Before we get excited about a third manufacturer, let’s not forget what happened last time... (570 points, 45 comments)
   3. The championship right now: (514 points, 45 comments)
   4. Posting a meme every Tuesday until the season starts: Week 5 (428 points, 34 comments)
   5. Posting a meme every Tuesday until the season starts: Week 6 (367 points, 27 comments)
   6. Posting a meme every Tuesday until the season starts: Week 4 (356 points, 27 comments)
   7. May I offer you a meme to lift your spirits during the off-season? (315 points, 26 comments)
   8. Posting a meme every Tuesday until the season starts: Week 2 (296 points, 34 comments)
   9. Posting a meme every Tuesday until the season starts: Week 11 (292 points, 22 comments)
   10. Posting a meme every Tuesday until the season starts: Week 7 (271 points, 23 comments)
3. 5452 points, 26 submissions: TheResurrection
   
   1. Nathan Brown: Sunday's Indy 500 averaged 5.581 million viewers, ranking as the most-watched Indy 500 since 2016. TV coverage peaked at 7.129 million viewers at the end of the race. It was also the weekend's most-watched sporting event. (551 points, 116 comments)
   2. O’Ward: A Mexican IndyCar race would be “sold out” (456 points, 82 comments)
   3. Rinus VeeKay Will Drive No. 21 Bitcoin Chevrolet in the 105th Running of the Indianapolis 500 (338 points, 95 comments)
   4. IndyCar, St Pete extend deal through 2026 (302 points, 18 comments)
   5. Sports car ace Kobayashi interested in trying IndyCar (300 points, 97 comments)
   6. Jimmie Johnson opens door to running the Indy 500 in 2022 (248 points, 43 comments)
   7. Fans OK’d for 2021 Indy 500, number to be determined (240 points, 64 comments)
   8. IMS finally got a photo of the 4-time winners together! (227 points, 49 comments)
   9. Ryan Hunter-Reay Confirmed To Andretti Autosport With DHL Support (210 points, 33 comments)
   10. Andretti Autosport driver shake-up likely ahead of 2022 (201 points, 167 comments)
4. 4756 points, 16 submissions: Vassukhanni
   
   1. VeeKay is too young to drink in the United States (577 points, 106 comments)
   2. Can Grosjean get pole every week? (511 points, 118 comments)
   3. Interesting to note you failed to qualify -- IndyCar on NBC on Twitter (489 points, 76 comments)
   4. I miss aero development, look at this beauty. (465 points, 52 comments)
   5. Al Unser at Pikes Peak, USAC Round 6, 1965. (411 points, 41 comments)
   6. Back when a super-modified could be an old Indycar with a roll cage bolted on, 1972. (357 points, 25 comments)
   7. Indycar fans... (321 points, 99 comments)
   8. On June 10 1905, the AAA ran its first championship race on a horse track in the Bronx. Louis Chevrolet, pictured here on the streets of New York City in his Fiat race car, would win the five-mile event. (279 points, 10 comments)
   9. Robin Miller demonstrates the lost art of the pit-board. Miller would be fired moments later, 1975. (271 points, 34 comments)
   10. The best-timed advertisement in history? (209 points, 19 comments)
5. 4310 points, 13 submissions: Fatjammas
   
   1. Three legends at Goodwood today! (535 points, 26 comments)
   2. Fun fact: Romain races while wearing his Richard Mille RM 011 TPT Red Quartz watch and has done so since they became his personal sponsor in 2013. It even survived his crash in Bahrain. Only 50 were made, and they're now out of production. (509 points, 89 comments)
   3. Okay can things please stop burning when Romain's around? (@grosjeanromain) (483 points, 29 comments)
   4. Romain has gone full tourist mode, he's got his family with him to continue on his American road trip! 😄 (source: @mariongrosjean) (463 points, 32 comments)
   5. Today on Roamin' Romain, he's in Cincinnati 😆. Credit @grosjeanromain (400 points, 71 comments)
   6. Introducing Grosjean's new personal sponsor, the World Health Organisation (372 points, 61 comments)
   7. Romain Grosjean is raising money for Association Hubert Gouin - Enfance & Cancer (Helping children with cancer), you can donate too! (312 points, 9 comments)
   8. Romain's race end at Long Beach (source: @rickwareracing) (267 points, 28 comments)
   9. Romain looking fresh for the Rev Indy event, until you look at his shoes 🤣 (source: @indianapolismotorspeedway) (222 points, 37 comments)
   10. Romain's car for the IRacing Competition (taken from Indycar's Insta story) (221 points, 8 comments)
6. 4084 points, 9 submissions: 07kmr
   
   1. The new fireman (1274 points, 62 comments)
   2. The new family member (580 points, 15 comments)
   3. “The God’s of Indianapolis” (451 points, 70 comments)
   4. The official “Veekay spin” (433 points, 28 comments)
   5. Romain will start a new collection (371 points, 36 comments)
   6. Kevin getting a nice welcoming to INDYCAR (370 points, 9 comments)
   7. Interesting choice by Rinus (319 points, 46 comments)
   8. Amazing moment for Romain (164 points, 23 comments)
   9. Ricky Taylor?? These rumors are getting crazy (122 points, 81 comments)
7. 3610 points, 11 submissions: whoiswillo
   
   1. Andretti Autosport confirms Grosjean for 2022 (831 points, 85 comments)
   2. Grosjean set for Andretti Autosport move in 2022 (778 points, 137 comments)
   3. Bobby Unser died of natural causes last night at age 87. (431 points, 61 comments)
   4. NTT has extended its contract to be the title sponsor of the IndyCar series (417 points, 70 comments)
   5. Will Power announces he will be racing the matte black Verizon 5G livery full time in 2021. (251 points, 35 comments)
   6. Pole Award for the Music City GP will be named after Bryan Clauson (203 points, 13 comments)
   7. Indy 500 Team Of Mostly Women Paretta Autosport Has Impact Off The Track (190 points, 29 comments)
   8. 35-car Indy 500 entry announced (135 points, 32 comments)
   9. (OT) Leigh Diffey has been named lead play-by-play announcer for Track and Field at the Olympics (126 points, 13 comments)
   10. Hilary Swank to play Janet Guthrie in feature film (125 points, 22 comments)
8. 3462 points, 16 submissions: waluigithewalrus
   
   1. The annual Front Row Photo (719 points, 59 comments)
   2. Pato pays $100K so that Mexican fans can watch the last 3 races this year for free [article in Spanish] (485 points, 59 comments)
   3. Indy 500 ‘definitely something I need to try’ – Magnussen RACER (337 points, 36 comments)
   4. Former CART driver Andre Ribeiro has died aged 55 of colorectal cancer (article in Portuguese) (270 points, 25 comments)
   5. Sebastian Bourdais has indicated in an interview with Leigh Diffey that this will be his last race as a full-time IndyCar driver (193 points, 60 comments)
   6. Daly confirmed for oval races with Carlin (173 points, 22 comments)
   7. Top Gun Racing doing a rookie practice session today at Gateway; Indy entry may still be on (156 points, 23 comments)
   8. IndyCar will reasses driver probation rules in the off-season after questions over driver discipline (148 points, 32 comments)
   9. Top Gun Racing confirms plans for 2021 Indy 500 with sights set on full 2022 IndyCar campaign (144 points, 32 comments)
   10. Scott McLaughlin officially named 2021 Indy 500 Rookie of the Year (134 points, 10 comments)
9. 3460 points, 14 submissions: hwf0712
   
   1. Bob Jenkins, legendary voice of Indy 500, dies: 'He was one of us in every way' (503 points, 74 comments)
   2. Hinchcliffe secures Andretti Autosport return on full-time deal (499 points, 69 comments)
   3. Callum Ilott on Twitter: Super excited to be racing IndyCar for Juncos Racing next week in Portland!! (440 points, 86 comments)
   4. Pietro Fittipaldi: 🚨NEWS: Very happy to announce I’ll be racing the ovals including the Indy 500 in the #51 car for Dale Coyne Racing IndyCar 🇧🇷 (413 points, 34 comments)
   5. Stern: Dale Jr has joined the Music City GP ownership group and will help promote the August event. (295 points, 37 comments)
   6. [OT] iRacing and NASCAR are partnering to bring back the spirit of Champ Car (226 points, 88 comments)
   7. Pitlane Parley Rumour: A source close to us confirms Dan Ticktum is set to race in his first IndyCar race in one of the final three rounds. (170 points, 201 comments)
   8. Music City Grand Prix on Twitter: ANNOUNCEMENT: The inaugural IndyCar Music City GP start time is 5:30 EST / 4:30 Local on Sunday 8.8.21 and will be broadcast live on NBC Sports and IndyCar Radio (154 points, 31 comments)
   9. Justin Wilson (RIP): Happy New Year (145 points, 5 comments)
   10. Nate Ryan on Twitter: An IndyCar entry list update for Road America as ECR reports that Oliver Askew will substitute for Rinus Veekay after successful clavicle surgery for VeeKay. (126 points, 31 comments)
10. 3221 points, 8 submissions: 25Tab
    
    1. Well done Nashville. (967 points, 36 comments)
    2. Grosjean confirms he’s moving his family to the US and running the full schedule next year. (844 points, 96 comments)
    3. TK to drive full time in Stock Car Brasil. (291 points, 25 comments)
    4. Inside car camera of Grosjean crashing the pace car in Laguna. (288 points, 41 comments)
    5. [OT] Ferrari announces top flight Le Mans, Sportscars return (236 points, 32 comments)
    6. Jimmie Johnson Sebring test video (233 points, 46 comments)
    7. Colts player Kenny Moore arrives to the first day of training camp in the Arrow 2 seater with Pato driving. (194 points, 21 comments)
    8. Penske “I don't see Formula 1 (at IMS) for the foreseeable future' (168 points, 110 comments)

Top Commenters

1. 25Tab (7493 points, 480 comments)
2. Hitokiri2 (6632 points, 484 comments)
3. Mikemat5150 (5145 points, 232 comments)
4. DadReligion (5023 points, 219 comments)
5. Wasdgta3 (4002 points, 233 comments)
6. KRacer52 (3954 points, 216 comments)
7. InvisibleTeeth (3760 points, 262 comments)
8. Vassukhanni (3486 points, 179 comments)
9. XFactor-41 (3410 points, 314 comments)
10. Yoshiman400 (2961 points, 242 comments)

Top Submissions

1. The Winning Pass by gtn_79 (2047 points, 84 comments)
2. Grosjean holding his p2 trophy, photo by Grace Hollars by hwhamlet (1814 points, 68 comments)
3. Found this gem on Twitter today. From Ferrucci's crash on Thursday. by ThyOwie (1304 points, 41 comments)
4. The new fireman by 07kmr (1274 points, 62 comments)
5. Kevin Magnussen to replace Felix Rosenqvist for AMSP at Road America by mwuk42 (1127 points, 285 comments)
6. Ham Ver Bot by Impressive_Orange (1115 points, 316 comments)
7. Grosjean on F1 vs IndyCar by DiligentlyMediocre (1053 points, 185 comments)
8. [Race Highlight] Grosjean with an insane overtake around the outside of Rossi by smoltanboi (1030 points, 112 comments)
9. Well done Nashville. by 25Tab (967 points, 36 comments)
10. Did you know NASCAR was at Nashville? by boboknows1115 (963 points, 97 comments)

Top Comments

1. 558 points: bitwisewahoo's comment in The Winning Pass
2. 549 points: DrDohday's comment in Kevin Magnussen to replace Felix Rosenqvist for AMSP at Road America
3. 488 points: Copobay's comment in Paul Tracy just called us out i think
4. 435 points: wrezl's comment in Post-race interview of a very unhappy driver
5. 419 points: mclairy's comment in Colton Herta's Dad
6. 365 points: 25Tab's comment in Grosjean holding his p2 trophy, photo by Grace Hollars
7. 353 points: romiglups's comment in Indy GP Pole sitter!
8. 347 points: Skeeter1020's comment in Alex Albon's eye on IndyCar & Formula E with dwindling F1 Hope
9. 346 points: jclark735's comment in [Race Highlight] Grosjean with an insane overtake around the outside of Rossi
10. 341 points: kad10101's comment in Post-race interview of a very unhappy driver

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